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Sorry to be pedantic but it's a 'Spider' not a 'Spyder'. The latter is normally used when describing a non Italian drop top, eg Porsche/

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Thanks for responding to all of us Chris. It's very much appreciated. Will the v2 intake use the same sprint filter you sell on your site? I might as well get that ordered if I still have a little bit to wait and need it for the phase 2 tune if so.
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Agreed. Need the V2 intake to be available so everything can be order at once and minimize the grief at the border.
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Thanks for responding to all of us Chris. It's very much appreciated. Will the v2 intake use the same sprint filter you sell on your site? I might as well get that ordered if I still have a little bit to wait and need it for the phase 2 tune if so.
You are welcome, it will feature a carbon fiber canister Sprint filter. The design of the V2 is quite a bit different than the V1.
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The upgrade price for current phase 1 users is $249.99, please re-read the website. It is one of the drop-down menu options. You purchase that option and send your ECM back for re-calibration. I think the price is fair for 3-4 months of work and testing. Phase 2 is priced at the same rate as phase 1 for new users, since it requires the same amount of work and hardware as phase 1.

We do offer factory software upgrades at no cost. I'm sorry if you think its unfair but it takes a certain amount of highly skilled labor to do what we do especially in a small market like this. If the market was as large as the VW market we would offer it for free.
I cannot fault your pricing for the new Phase 2. In fact, I'm pleasantly surprised that you aren't offering a premium for the added output. OTOH, it is unlikely that you are ever going to sell another Phase 1 with them priced the same and a $250 upgrade charge. Or is the P2 price just an introductory special?

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Chris I love your business model and just ordered the phase 2 ECU. Hoping to get many terrific years out of it.

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Hello together

I am Sebastiano, 38 years old and I am working in the Bosch MED development facility on Györ, Hungary.

I am read this forum a long time now and I am sometimes very surprised how much nonsense here is writing.

I am a worker in the Bosch development since 2001 and I am responsible for the Maserati, Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Volvo development. I do not knew if the word is right but I am the plant leader.. Sorry for my English.


The translation from whp to the corrected EWG on the Alfa Romeo 4C is 11,4%. This means that the claimed numbers from this entity here must had 356,48 PS EWG on measures according to the European norm. The power train was developed with 245PS EWG. The delivery is 245PS EWG on the world wide.

As responsible person I ask you to please explain us - the developing plant how you came up with a number that is more higher than the turbo compressor can deliver, the fuel pump and injectors can deliver and how you resolved the 1000 degrees Celsius problem with the collector after 315PS EWG that is the maximum if you run the car on a Euro 5 catalisateur?!!

The power train can not make 320 horse power. The pump can not make it. The euro 6 catalisateur can definitely not make it. Can you please post some pictures from the dyno and fan (where the wind / air comes out) from your development.

I don't want to attack. We are developing this 4C since 2009 and the euro 5 since 2005. I want to just ask.
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it is unlikely that you are ever going to sell another Phase 1 with them priced the same and a $250 upgrade charge. Or is the P2 price just an introductory special?
Phase 1 is still a very good tune. It doesn't require an upgraded intake and it's still darn fast. I would also be uncomfortable with an owner using Phase 2 if he/she didn't change oil on time, clean the air filter as needed and generally stay really on top of maintenance. Phase 1 doesn't put the same amount of stress on the turbo thus all those things are less critical. For a lot of owners Phase 1 is a very good choice.

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I wrote very Polite and interested. Please don't ignored me. I have the same right to get these questions answered like all of your potential clients and the members of these form
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Relax, you are not being ignored. You made your first post on this thread at about 1PM est on a Sunday. Your answer is coming.

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